独家对话梅涛：世界模型不是口号，没有视频底座，具身智能走不远

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;x22x3ex26nbsp;x3c/spanx3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/o:px3ex3c/px3ex3cp style=x22line-height: 1.75em;margin-left: 1em;margin-right: 1em;x22 data-mpa-action-id=x22mo8dw4hk1didx22x3ex3cspan mpa-font-style=x22mo6waruw1lkox22 style=x22font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1.5px;x22x3ex3cspan leaf=x22x22 style=x22color: rgba ( 0, 0, 0, 0.9 ) ;font-family: mp-quote, x26quot;PingFang SCx26quot;, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, x26quot;Helvetica Neuex26quot;, x26quot;Hiragino Sans GBx26quot;, x26quot;Microsoft YaHei UIx26quot;, x26quot;Microsoft YaHeix26quot;, Arial, sans-serif;font-style: normal;font-weight: normal;x22x3ex3cspan textstyle=x22x22 style=x22color: rgb ( 89, 89, 89 ) ;x22x3e 过去一年，视频生成行业始终在热闹与现实之间摇摆。x3c/spanx3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/px3ex3cp style=x22line-height: 1.75em;margin-left: 1em;margin-right: 1em;x22 data-mpa-action-id=x22mo8dw4hkjq4x22x3ex3cspan mpa-font-style=x22mo6waruw1lkox22 style=x22font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1.5px;x22x3ex3cspan leaf=x22x22 style=x22color: rgba ( 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的叙事被不断推高；另一边，更朴素的问题却始终无法回避：客户为什么付钱，公司靠什么活下去。直到 Sora 关停，这种摇摆才多少被戳破了一点：原来再大的技术声量，也不天然通向商业闭环。x3c/spanx3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/px3ex3cp style=x22line-height: 1.75em;margin-left: 1em;margin-right: 1em;x22 data-mpa-action-id=x22mo8dw4hkn38x22x3ex3cspan mpa-font-style=x22mo6waruw7c8x22 style=x22font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1.5px;x22x3ex3cspan leaf=x22x22 style=x22color: rgba ( 0, 0, 0, 0.9 ) ;font-family: mp-quote, x26quot;PingFang SCx26quot;, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, x26quot;Helvetica Neuex26quot;, x26quot;Hiragino Sans GBx26quot;, x26quot;Microsoft YaHei UIx26quot;, x26quot;Microsoft YaHeix26quot;, Arial, sans-serif;font-style: normal;font-weight: normal;x22x3ex3cbr /x3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/px3ex3cp style=x22line-height: 1.75em;margin-left: 1em;margin-right: 1em;x22 data-mpa-action-id=x22mo8dw4hkbqxx22x3ex3cspan mpa-font-style=x22mo6waruw7c8x22 style=x22font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1.5px;x22x3ex3cspan leaf=x22x22 style=x22color: rgba ( 0, 0, 0, 0.9 ) ;font-family: mp-quote, x26quot;PingFang SCx26quot;, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, x26quot;Helvetica Neuex26quot;, x26quot;Hiragino Sans GBx26quot;, x26quot;Microsoft YaHei UIx26quot;, x26quot;Microsoft YaHeix26quot;, Arial, sans-serif;font-style: normal;font-weight: normal;x22x3ex3cspan textstyle=x22x22 style=x22color: rgb ( 89, 89, 89 ) ;x22x3e 智象未来创始人梅涛显然不太愿意把自己放进这种热闹里。x3c/spanx3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/px3ex3cp style=x22line-height: 1.75em;margin-left: 1em;margin-right: 1em;x22 data-mpa-action-id=x22mo8dw4hk1gj3x22x3ex3cspan leaf=x22x22 style=x22color: rgba ( 0, 0, 0, 0.9 ) ;font-size: 17px;font-family: mp-quote, x26quot;PingFang SCx26quot;, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, x26quot;Helvetica Neuex26quot;, x26quot;Hiragino Sans GBx26quot;, x26quot;Microsoft YaHei UIx26quot;, x26quot;Microsoft YaHeix26quot;, Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing: 0.034em;font-style: normal;font-weight: normal;x22x3ex3cspan textstyle=x22x22 style=x22color: rgb ( 89, 89, 89 ) 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对一家既要追模型，又要追产品；既要解释技术信仰，又要证明现实价值；既要回答 " 你们和大厂有什么不一样 "，也要回答 " 为什么客户现在就愿意买单 " 的公司来说，如果说过去几年，AI 创业者最常见的情绪是兴奋，那么到了今天，落在梅涛这样的创业者身上的，更多像是一种复杂得多的东西。x3c/spanx3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/px3ex3cp style=x22line-height: 1.75em;margin-left: 1em;margin-right: 1em;x22 data-mpa-action-id=x22mo8dw4hk1ydjx22x3ex3cspan mpa-font-style=x22mo6waruw1qyjx22 style=x22font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1.5px;x22x3ex3cspan leaf=x22x22 style=x22color: rgba ( 0, 0, 0, 0.9 ) ;font-family: mp-quote, x26quot;PingFang SCx26quot;, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, x26quot;Helvetica Neuex26quot;, x26quot;Hiragino Sans GBx26quot;, x26quot;Microsoft YaHei UIx26quot;, x26quot;Microsoft YaHeix26quot;, Arial, sans-serif;font-style: normal;font-weight: normal;x22x3ex3cbr /x3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/px3ex3cp style=x22line-height: 1.75em;margin-left: 1em;margin-right: 1em;x22 data-mpa-action-id=x22mo8dw4hkc9bx22x3ex3cspan mpa-font-style=x22mo6waruw1qyjx22 style=x22font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1.5px;x22x3ex3cspan leaf=x22x22 style=x22color: rgba ( 0, 0, 0, 0.9 ) ;font-family: mp-quote, x26quot;PingFang SCx26quot;, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, x26quot;Helvetica Neuex26quot;, x26quot;Hiragino Sans GBx26quot;, x26quot;Microsoft YaHei UIx26quot;, x26quot;Microsoft YaHeix26quot;, Arial, sans-serif;font-style: normal;font-weight: normal;x22x3ex3cspan textstyle=x22x22 style=x22color: rgb ( 89, 89, 89 ) ;x22x3e 面对这种复杂，他反而说得直接：Sora 关停为什么 " 意料之外，也是意料之中 "；为什么普通泛 C 用户不是他们当前真正的核心用户；视频生成为什么会通向世界模型；而具身智能，又为什么离不开一个足够强的视频底座。x3c/spanx3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/px3ex3cp style=x22line-height: 1.75em;margin-left: 1em;margin-right: 1em;x22 data-mpa-action-id=x22mo8dw4hkhf6x22x3ex3cspan mpa-font-style=x22mo6waruwd8mx22 style=x22font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1.5px;x22x3ex3cspan leaf=x22x22 style=x22color: rgba ( 0, 0, 0, 0.9 ) ;font-family: mp-quote, x26quot;PingFang SCx26quot;, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, x26quot;Helvetica Neuex26quot;, x26quot;Hiragino Sans GBx26quot;, x26quot;Microsoft YaHei UIx26quot;, x26quot;Microsoft YaHeix26quot;, Arial, sans-serif;font-style: normal;font-weight: normal;x22x3ex3cbr /x3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/px3ex3cp style=x22line-height: 1.75em;margin-left: 1em;margin-right: 1em;x22 data-mpa-action-id=x22mo8dw4hknppx22x3ex3cspan mpa-font-style=x22mo6waruwd8mx22 style=x22font-size: 15px;letter-spacing: 1.5px;x22x3ex3cspan leaf=x22x22 style=x22color: rgba ( 0, 0, 0, 0.9 ) ;font-family: mp-quote, x26quot;PingFang SCx26quot;, system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, x26quot;Helvetica Neuex26quot;, x26quot;Hiragino Sans GBx26quot;, x26quot;Microsoft YaHei UIx26quot;, x26quot;Microsoft YaHeix26quot;, Arial, sans-serif;font-style: normal;font-weight: normal;x22x3ex3cspan textstyle=x22x22 style=x22color: rgb ( 89, 89, 89 ) ;x22x3e 顺着这些问题，你看到的不只是智象未来的路径，也是一个创业者如何在模型、产品和商业化之间，搭一条不悬空的线。x3c/spanx3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/spanx3ex3c/px3ex3cp style=x22line-height: 1.75em;margin-left: 1em;margin-right: 1em;x22 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