勇士认为威少很好防,美球迷怎么看?

美国JRS之声 10-12

Report: Warriors Think Russell Westbrook's Style of Play Is 'Easy to Defend' ( bleacherreport.com )

《露天看台》报道:勇士队认为拉塞尔 - 威斯布鲁克的打球风格是 " 容易防守 " 的

[ – ] Cavalierslegodmanjames 938 points 12 hours ago

pretty sure every team in the playoffs thought that. 1 man show is a 1 man show.

十分确定每一支季后赛球队都会同意这个观点,单打独斗就是单打独斗,肯定好防啊。

[ – ] ThunderBeastbrook00 195 points 11 hours ago

Yeah it was easy for the Warriors to defend against him because they could gang up on him with multiple defenders. Let's see how they like it this season!

雷霆球迷:楼上说得没错。对于勇士来说防守威斯布鲁克其实挺简单的,他们可以用多名球员轮番包夹威少。新赛季的话就难说了,看看他们还会不会喜欢这样的防守策略!

[ – ] [ LAL ] Didier Ilunga-Mbengahonditar 317 points 10 hours ago

图片内容:

Sam Esfandiari:" 在过去三个赛季勇士对阵威少的 17 场比赛中(其中有 13 场是杜兰特在雷霆时期),威少有 3 场比赛命中率超过 40%"

Sam Esfandiari:" 威少这 17 场比赛里的详细数据。前 13 场里雷霆有杜兰特(2014 年 12 月 18 日勇士队阵雷霆,杜兰特在半场伤退离场)。后 4 场里勇士有 3 场有杜兰特。最后 1 场杜兰特轮休。"

(各项数据为:比赛时间、投篮命中数、投篮出手数、投篮命中率、三分命中数、三分出手数、三分命中率、失误数)

[ – ] TimberwolvesHumperdink_Fangboner 172 points 10 hours ago

Jesus. I looked at that one 50+% game and thought at least he had a few decent games.

11TOs... Nope

天啊,我看到其中一场威少命中率超过 50% 的比赛,还以为他在这 17 次对阵中至少打了几场好球。

但我错了,11 个失误。

[ – ] NBAzxc123zxc123 43 points 8 hours ago*

To be fair, most people don't play well against the GSW and that 11/3/16 game was basically GSW moping the thunder after the 1st with WB desperately trying to do whatever he could to keep his team up with the warriors. Despite his team clearly not being able to handle the warriors.

说句公道话,大部分球员在遇到勇士的时候都打得不好,而且 2016 年 11 月 3 日勇士对阵雷霆那场,勇士在第一节就把雷霆打花了,之后完全就是威少一个人绝望地尝试担当起一切从而能让自己队能跟勇士抗衡,尽管很明显雷霆队拿勇士队毫无办法。

The warriors defense is swamping for even elite guards. It was extra clear in the finals, when even Kyrie must have thought it's "challenging". Klay is the default guy on most guards. You ask for a switch? OK. Now you have 6'11.5 by 7'0 KD on you. Get another switch. Now you have Iggy. Managed to shake him? Now you have DPOTY Draymond on your ass.

勇士队的防守能让很多精英后卫都深陷其中。尤其是在总决赛的时候,连欧文都觉得充满了挑战性。克莱一般都是默认去防守对方的大部分后卫,然后你说好吧,那我错位打总行了吧?很好,现在你有一个 2 米 11 到 2 米 13 的杜兰特防着你。再换错位,现在你有一哥防着你。假设你把他晃过了,现在你有年度最佳防守球员追梦格林追着你的屁股满世界跑。

[ – ] Warriorsmanisier 74 points 11 hours ago*

That's literally the opposite of how we defend Westbrook. The best way to deal with him, ironically, is to just let him take shots and force him into turning the ball over by playing the other 4 guys tightly. He's already an inefficient scorer so it's damn near foolproof.

勇士球迷:实际上包夹与我们防守威少的策略完全相反。讽刺点儿说,对付他最好的方法恰恰是让他投篮,除此之外在他突破时其余四人收缩防守从而迫使他失误。他已经是一个低效的得分手因此这样子防绝对没有一点儿问题。

Of course that wasn't possible when KD was catching fire back in the day. With PG and Melo I expect a lot of teams to rethink their defensive playbook against OKC. Still, I don't expect our scheme to change too much. We're well equipped to deal with offensive wings since everyone in the death lineup bar Curry can switch a screen

当然了,当 KD 在雷霆队手感火热的时候这种防守策略几乎是不可能的。现在他们有了乔治和安东尼,我估计很多球队都会重新计划他们对阵雷霆队时的防守战术。但我不认为勇士的防守策略会有太多改变。我们有足够的球员深度来对付进攻型侧翼,在死亡五小阵容里除了库里谁都能任意换防。

[ – ] [ LAL ] Kobe BryantPaladinoras 10 points 8 hours ago

The best way to deal with him, ironically, is to just let him take shots and force him into turning the ball over by playing the other 4 guys tightly.

Reminds me of how teams tried to play Kobe in 08 - 10. Usually Kobe torched them though.

" 讽刺点儿说,对付他最好的方法恰恰是让他投篮,除此之外在他突破时其余四人收缩防守从而迫使他失误。"

这句话让我想起了在 08-10 两个赛季其它球队尝试这样防守科比,不过大部分情况下科比都能把对面按在地上摩擦。

[ – ] WarriorsPinheadXXXXXX 30 points 7 hours ago

Kobe was a far more flexible player

科比是一位更加会视场上情况而做出调整的球员。

[ – ] WarriorsCantHousewifeaHo 35 points 7 hours ago

WB ain't Kobe.

威少不是科比。

[ – ] KnicksRhodes_Closed 989 points 13 hours ago

He shot like 35 percent from the field against them lol

这 17 次对阵里威少投出了 35% 的命中率,有点搞笑。

[ – ] WarriorsIllegalThoughts 916 points 13 hours ago

32 TOs in 4 games

4 场比赛里有 32 次失误。

[ – ] jfk22 326 points 13 hours ago

Jesus Christ

额滴神啊。

[ – ] [ HOU ] Charles BarkleyJimHarden 157 points 13 hours ago

The Warriors have a top defense in the league, they shut down a lot of players

勇士有着全联盟数一数二的防守,他们经常能防死很多球员。

[ – ] [ IND ] Ron ArtestBxtchImGoku 427 points 13 hours ago

They never shut down Michael Jordan

可他们从来没防死过迈克尔 - 乔丹。

[ – ] [ LAL ] Kobe BryantChampagnesoda 270 points 13 hours ago

Untrue. MJ hasn ’ t scored a single point against any of the guys currently on the warriors.

不对哟老哥,MJ 还没在现勇士阵容里的任何一名球员头上拿过一分呢。

[ – ] [ GSW ] Stephen Currythelawofreflection 124 points 13 hours ago

But he hasn't missed a single shot playing against this Warriors team.

但他也从来没有在对阵这支勇士时投丢过一球啊。

[ – ] [ LAL ] Kobe BryantChampagnesoda 79 points 13 hours ago

He ’ s scared

他估计是怕得在角落里瑟瑟发抖吧。

[ – ] LakersWalooo 28 points 12 hours ago

This 2017-18 Warriors team also won 0 games in the 17-18 regular season. Who cares about defense when you can't even win 1 game.

2017-2018 赛季的勇士队还没有在 2017-2018 常规赛季里赢过一场球,如果你连一场球都赢不了,谁会去关心你的防守啊。

[ – ] [ GSW ] Andre IguodalaChooch3333 28 points 12 hours ago

Still tied for the 1 seed though.

勇士球迷:但我们和其他球队一样都是一号种子呢。

[ – ] GrizzliesWaxStatue 19 points 11 hours ago

Also tied for best odds in the lottery.

状元签概率也排第一呢。

[ – ] [ MIL ] Oscar RobertsonSuicidalImmortal 579 points 13 hours ago

Report: Warriors have a DPOY, the 3 and D King, a PG that tries on defense, and a 7footer who moves like silk.

他们应该换个标题:"《露天看台》报道:勇士队有一名年度最佳防守球员,一名 3D 之王,一名努力防守的控卫,和一名移动如丝般顺滑的七尺大个 "。

[ – ] [ CHI ] Lauri MarkkanenImRBJ 319 points 13 hours ago

7footer who moves like silk.

quite the description for Zaza

" 移动如丝般顺滑的七尺大个。"

描述的是扎扎吧,没毛病。

[ – ] Charlotte Hornetsparty-in-here 120 points 12 hours ago

Obviously he was referencing the GOAT, best two way in any cdth Javale McGee

蠢啊你,很明显他是在指攻防最强、从一打到五的历史最佳球员:奥拉朱基!

[ – ] [ GSW ] Draymond Greennotabear629 266 points 13 hours ago

And then either a FMVP because of his defense or literally a giant ogre

勇士球迷:而且还要加上靠防守获得 FMVP 的伊戈达拉,或者身披勇士球衣的食人魔扎扎。

[ – ] New Jersey NetsLiaM_CS 85 points 11 hours ago

Don't forget 2-time MVP Javale McGee

还是别忘记了两届奥胖五大囧的 MVP 贾维尔 - 麦基哦。

[ – ] NBAwhy_rob_y 118 points 11 hours ago

He's the 3 and D king the first guy mentioned.

麦基就是层主说的 3D 之王。

[ – ] [ MIL ] Giannis AntetokounmpoWIN011 280 points 13 hours ago

I'm just assuming this was taken out of context because that's what the media loves to do.

我在猜测这个报道是断章取义的吧,就是媒体热衷于搞的那一套。

[ – ] PistonsCrispyBalooga 71 points 13 hours ago

It's pretty straightforward this time. This was said at some point by people in the Warriors org - players or officials or both, not positive on that.

老哥你错了,其实这是原话搬过来的。来自勇士团队的某些人说了这句话,我不太确定是球员还是官方还是两者都有。

[ – ] Warriorsacerv 49 points 12 hours ago*

The source is Zach Lowe specifically saying in his podcast that when he talks to Warriors players, that's the sentiment. Also that Jack Mccallum ( a well respected NBA writer ) reported the same thing.

I think this is legit and I don't think it's all that controversial for the Warriors to think. I don't really see why our fans want to deny the legitimacy of it. Obviously it'll be used as fuel for the Thunder, but I don't think it's some overly arrogant/outlandish thing our players are saying.

这条新闻源来自于 Zach Lowe,他在主持自己播客节目时谈到自己与勇士球员聊天时他们特别提到了这件事。同时 Jack Mccallum(一位受人尊敬的 NBA 写手)也报道了同样的新闻。

我觉得这话说得很合理,我也不觉得会引起勇士方面的矛盾。我看不透的是为什么我们作为球迷反而去否认这话的合理性。很明显这会成为雷霆接下来的动力,但我不认为勇士球员说这话会显得过于自傲或者古怪。

[ – ] [ GSW ] Klay ThompsonBear4188 132 points 13 hours ago*

You can see it in the games. Any team that tries to just run everything through one guard to drive and kick gets destroyed by the Warriors. They put Klay on ball who is expert at defending with his body, retreating without fouling, and just making it difficult to get a good shot. Off ball they have KD, Draymond, Iguodala, and Steph all of whom are good at getting in passing lanes or at stripping the ball if the driver isn't paying attention. Then at the last second when the driver has run out of room and has to go up for a contested layup or force a pass that's when they bring the double team.

其实平时看比赛就能看出来,任何球队尝试通过一名后卫突破分球来解决一切进攻端的问题,往往都会被勇士摧毁。勇士会让克莱来防有球,他是一名懂得利用身体的防守专家,退守时不会犯规,而且还能让进攻球员很难获得好的出手机会。无球的话勇士有 KD,追梦,一哥,还有库里,都十分擅长封堵传球线路或者在对手突破不注意时把球掏掉。当进攻时间所剩无几,突破手没有空间突破只能强行上篮或者勉强传球时,他们会选择果断包夹。

They're very good at defending this style of play whether it's from Westbrook or Harden or whoever. Of course both of those teams have big changes that might make for some very different games.

像防这种类型的球员,不管是威少还是哈登还是其他人,勇士都有一套很好的防守策略。当然了,火箭和雷霆都有了很大的变动,新赛季在打法上可能也会与之前非常不同。

[ – ] Warriorsnotsellingjeans 46 points 12 hours ago

That last point is a really good one. The Warriors have defended ball-dominant high pick-and-roll extremely well. Now both OKC and Houston have added other modes of attack ( CP3's midrange in the PnR, OKC's ability to iso Carmelo or PG13 with their back to the basket ) .

老哥我同意你的最后一点,说得很好。勇士在防守以持球攻为主的高位挡拆时防得特别的好。且如今雷霆和火箭都注入了新的进攻方式(火箭有保罗挡拆后的中距离,雷霆能够拉开让安东尼和 PG 背筐单打)。

To your point, the game the Warriors struggled the most defending last year was against Denver - a team that uses relatively few high PnRs. Jokic carved them up. He's big enough to post Draymond, and it's very hard to double-team a terrific 7'0" passer with teammates who are willing cutters.

再加一点,去年使勇士防守端陷入最多挣扎的球队是掘金队,一支不经常使用高位挡拆的球队。约基奇的存在撕开了勇士的防线,他巨大的体型能让他背身打格林,同时在掘金其它球员愿意无球切入的情况下去包夹一位优秀的七尺传球大个也会显得十分困难。

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10-12
杜兰特最难防、因为不知道那个休赛期他就会背叛你投敌~
Liliam
10-12
确实很好防,因为雷霆进攻策略意图很明显勇士也跟得上雷霆的速度。团队肯定是能赢单打的,任何想单打勇士的后卫都很好防,要是给维斯配一群射手,进攻选择变多的话就不好防了。不过就事论事,勇士队友私底下讨论谁好不好防没毛病啊,这个主持把话搬到台面上来就不太好了。
Hi_雷子
10-12
奥拉朱基!神翻译!点赞翻译!
专找黑子下手
10-12
我们也应该这么细致的去讨论下此类话题
葵瓜子
10-12
新赛季雷霆可有三个单打得分点了,不要忘了威少可是三双王。万一他化身为加强版的保罗呢?期待
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方家山孙红雷
10-13
威少可是三双的人,不光可以突破也可以传球,神龟会传球多可怕
方家山孙红雷
10-13
在下佩服
~~~~~~~~~~杜兰特最难防、因为不知道那个休赛期他就会背叛你投敌~
xf
10-13
媒体最喜欢挑拨球员,球队间的关系,看热闹不嫌事大,越是关系不合,越多人关注,自己的收视率也越高,没新闻就自己制造新闻。
Liliam确实很好防,因为雷霆进攻策略意图很明显勇士也跟得上雷霆的速度。团队肯定是能赢单打的,任何想单打勇士的后卫都很好防,要是给维斯配一群射手,进攻选择变多的话就不好防了。不过就事论事,勇士队友私底下讨论谁好不好防没毛病啊,这个主持把话搬到台面上来就不太好了。
xf
10-13
杜兰特最难防,因为不知什么时候就会在背后捅你一刀
回到从前杜兰特最难防,因为他无球有球威胁性都很高,威少就差很多。
事件 Ω 视界
10-12
不好说
一场和自我的战争
10-12
没毛病666
柏杨哥哥
10-12
约老师高位挡拆 杀伤力很大 高位持球策应 传球给切入的球员 杀伤力也很不错 或者直接背打格林 很爽 勇士对于这种经常高位 传导 策应 切入的打法不是很适应
sayamaya
10-12
就服你
~~~~~~~~~~杜兰特最难防、因为不知道那个休赛期他就会背叛你投敌~
/tyjiлの波❤
10-12
只要是雷霆跟勇士的比赛都必看,超精彩,有木有。
我爸爸。。。
10-12
看上赛季数据就很明显了。场均8次失误,三十几的命中率,四场全输
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